name: steve hochman message: "just by engaging in debate we lose," this was clearly written by someone who is scientifically illiterate and extremely unfamiliar with the scientific process. in fact, by avoiding debate we are destined to continually make very misinformed decisions. science without debate is, well....not science. it's called religion. my recommendation is for you to get a degree in a real scientific field....perhaps try a field of engineering. maybe you'll learn about the physical sciences and eventually learn to think critically for yourself, rather than memorize catch phrases from greenpeace pamphlets. this part of your rant was amusing: "after the debate more people agreed with crichton & co. than the scientists." perhaps you failed to notice that prof lindzen, lead climate scientist from mit was on the winning side. oops. maybe your sentence should read, "more people agreed with lindzen, the premiere climate scientists in the world, rather than the alarmist whackos." for now, you have the media on your bandwagon....but i assure you, eventually, science, truth and reason will trump your pseudo science and hyperbole.